Je Etsy Un Autre

Wikipedia Poem, No. 742

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“You don’t need a story. The question is How long do you not need a story?” David Shields

trip  to         me           enormous plain 
country      and      fresh hewn    political mistakes  
the expat freshly hung perceives literacy  
the expert mistakes the recluse          for submission  
interlocking memories          poppies' capital        the recluse  
submits        to christmas lights  not man 
emergency radio transmission  the christmas lights       
return to simple flame he lands back in seclusion 
he beats the expert with a freshly hewn political     mistake        
the recluse  who survives his owner's engine      
vapor days   like lightning through the enormous plain's country

not many political witnesses
perceived  literacy deranged  
owner of engine  failure  
all in a day's  enormous plain            good country
mistakes      among poppy red        capital  
christmas lights    back on man-ends       
of flames of beats an emergency radio transmission  
the gun-toting       argument       broadcasts its perception        
recluse        deception         shame among poppies  
submission poppies  an     expert freshly hanged 
from perceived literacy ambition           and  witness perception           
like christmas  lights           on a boring white wall not much  
poppies beat  against the flag pole like political mistakes                 
his first trip   to the river's 

Wikipedia Poem, No. 231

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“The court said it felt ‘deep regret’ at Mr. Marhanka’s death.” New York Times, 17 June 2016

 

teacher the court asks
a serpent lost his neck
the newspaper replies

four years the inmate asks
a newspaper replies four years
the inmate invents impulse

remember this birth in changhua
the court says no you have
no wife impossible he says

but his throat was his door
with a prison conviction
over the serpent’s tongue

marijuana in his throat
the interpreter’s hiss witness
language anything possible

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Source: Ramzy, Austin. “American Kills Himself in Taiwan Court After 4-Year Drug Sentence.” New York Times 17 June 2016. Web. 17 June 2016.

wikipedia poem, no. 42

survival

             the stranger's 
body's 
      so 
awfully glad 
     
    the USA    stranger's body's still    
 
     
    so 
awfully 
      glad to be   
    conscripted to be     a   
    brain
         
  to be here for 
you all 
        

   a useless 
         day?  
        
            
         to be   
conscribed
         to confidence 
  
       By         the same 
     
 
 useless 
day?   
  
      
         a stranger's 
        body's some awful-loan 
   
the stranger's body's 
 
          
    all  
           
           
  to consider 
       disappointing 
    to be here 
all I ever wanted  
 Can I 
get another        day
  
              to be  

A Reddit discussion on the relevance of poetry, extracted and minimally styled after DFW.

LASAGNA

X.

Oh my god, everyone.

<RANT>

Poetry is meaningless, cars are meaningless, thoughts are meaningless, action is meaningless, airplanes are meaningless, babies are meaningless… UNLESS they do something. That has broad implications, but this is a fact.

Cliche. Cliche. Cliche.

Everyone’s always arguing about the death/rebirth of poetry. Poetry hasn’t mattered on a conventional scale since… when? The industrial revolution? (That’s someone else’s sign post…) Since… The capitalist revolution.

You can’t sell a poem. You can’t BUY a poem. But Poetry can kill someone. A poem can take you from here to there. Poetry can kill you. Poetry can feed you. Poetry can pay for college and do keg stands and still earn an impossible 5.0.

If poetry means anything to you: Write it.

If you want to eat poetry: Fry it up and chow down.

If you want poetry to buy you a Maserati: Sew some poems together and pass them off for debit bucks.

If you want to craft poetry to change the word: WRITE A POEM THAT MATTERS.

I imagine this sounds like an indictment of poets, but really it’s an indictment on stupidity and complacency and the lowest common denominator that feeds a capitalist society. Poetry doesn’t work here because it’s not a big pink exploding orgasm of cash and communication, it functions in “myriad petty little unsexy ways, every day.[1] 

A poem made me put my shopping cart back at the supermarket. A poem taught me to help a single mom carry her carriage down the steps of a subway station. A poem taught me how to smile in traffic (and engage in a proper zipper merge.)

That translates to a whole lot of “Who gives a shit?” But, really, think about it: The biggest problems of our time — war, poverty, racism, sexism, fast food, terrorism, reality TV — stretch out of a severe lack of empathy.

Poetry — the good stuff anyway — allows us to talk to each other intimately across the borders of death and distance and class and language.

You know?

Like I said… If poetry means anything to you you’ve GOT to write it. It’s not an option. (Even if your poetry sucks and no one would trade an ounce of spit for it… you eventually will get it to where it needs to be. Just keep writing.)

That’s why.

</RANT>

X.

I’m not arguing with your asking of the question. I’m arguing with the idea that the standards are the same between poetry and other arts and therefore poetry isn’t important or relevant.

You’re holding (many people hold) poetry up to a false standard. Big corporations don’t make huge cash from poetry: That’s the only way that poetry isn’t as highly valued as film, painting or music.

I can assure you to the THINKING public poetry is valued. Maybe not to the GENERAL public.

Now, think really hard about the GENERAL public. They like The Walking Dead, Interstellar, Imagine Dragons, Kanye West, (I’m hesitant to put contemporary art on this list because i suspect the average person doesn’t really doesn’t know) Jeff Koons, Marina Abramovic, etc etc etc.

What I’m proposing is that that work and the work of those artists has several large, hulking, wampum-powered machines behind them that tell the average person to like them. NPR, NYT, press agencies, ArtForum, paid bloggers, etc, stand beside Jeff Koons and send up fucking fireworks. Why would you not pay attention?

So what does that say about the (non-monetary) value of the work? NOTHING. What does that say about the relevance of the work? Well, that’s a more complicated question…

This is a similar question to the one the news industry is going through.

News is devalued because news is powerful and unpredictable and often bites the hand that feeds it. (Sound familiar.) Think about the patrons of the great poets. Think about Jeff Bezos and the Washington Post. (A thin analogy perhaps, I’m not in JB’s head: I don’t know his intentions (vanity? profit? enlightenment? adventure?))

So is your question: “How can we make poetry THRIVE!?” or “Why isn’t poetry thriving?”

or is it:

“Why isn’t poetry relevant?”

Because poetry *is* relevant (because I say so, and you can, too) and its importance is manifold.

Like I said: Poetry can kill or save or lift a people up or clarify thought (a la that very apropos quote via u/purplemarker) or do nothing or slither under your skin.

The great thing about poetry is anyone can do it.

The terrible thing about poetry is anyone can do it.

Writing it requires great intelligence and creativity and blood-curdling persistence.

Writing it only requires ~~a decent pen~~ a brain.

Reading it, however… well, reading it, unlike many other arts… requires the same set of tools that the author/artist possesses. I hadn’t thought of that before. That’s another INTRINSIC value of poetry. Can’t sell it, but there it is.

So, I guess the answer to your question is two-fold: externally poetry isn’t as widely appreciated anymore because there are many arts now that require much less of the observer. Poetry will always be “JUST WORDS.” (And that’s a great thing.) This makes poetry’s potential market share … como sei dici … umm … negligible? (That’s not exactly the right word, but, moving on…)

[Side note: When you intro a new dynamic format for poetry — slam, parole in libertà, for example  — you will bring more consumers into the fold. Some will translate into readers others will return to the popular culture unfazed. So it goes.]

Secondly, a base analogy: poetry is like fucking. It’s great. It’s risky. It’s a challenge. It’s invigorating. It’s transcendent.

Masturbation is always an option, but it just doesn’t have the same charge to it.

No one has to justify the pleasures of sex to you. However, some people don’t like it. Some people don’t have great experiences, memories, whatever, around it. That’s fine. Your experience with fucking shouldn’t be hitched to John Smith’s sexual realities. You keep fucking (reading, writing) BECAUSE IT’S FUUUUCCCCKING.

And then there’s that nasty, inconvenient love part…

And then there’s that nasty, inconvenient propagation part…

(I could go on for ever with this analogy.)

Anyway, read poetry and you’ll find your answer. Read criticism and you’ll find more answers. Surround yourself with poetry and you’ll go super saiyan with love and empathy and respect and good will.

Your question is a fine one, the answer isn’t so simple. Instead of quoting or linking you to someone else’s passion, I told you mine.

Nonetheless, here are some links to enrich yourself that have definitely touched me:

* http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~wh/

* http://www.poetryfoundation.org/features/audiolanding

* https://soundcloud.com/newyorker

* http://www.amazon.com/New-Media-Poetics-Contexts-Technotexts/dp/0262513382/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1417527570&sr=1-1

* http://www.amazon.com/Attack-Difficult-Poems-Essays-Inventions/dp/0226044777/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1417527630&sr=1-5&keywords=charles+bernstein

* http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/bernstein/

* http://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/30/the-art-of-poetry-no-87-paul-muldoon

* http://www.righthandpointing.net/

(Also go see poetry readings.) etc etc etc

Thanks for asking about poetry.

wikipedia poem, no. 30 [Against the Dibble House]

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the day in such a manMad art 
      Curry 
        had died it 
    was on the Dibble House and from Thomas Hart down 
appeared if 
  as 
       a painting. Wood decided 
this was the spirit. Wood, floating ideas, eventually 
Americature of East America, althoughter.
     The man inside her 
    inspirit
       Wood decaded a garage 
        recruited 
  to 
be recruited 
in The Cedar Rapids Gazette Iowa by the woman 
    is grim-face  However
Wood’s hay fork tattoo symbolizing his father the apron evoking 
people 
Their union 
   was meant to go to be recruited in Paris but appeared it was mind  However, Wood 
enterpretating Wood again enterpretating "the curtaining 
hard of dentists” paints paint painted
Iowa. dress 
  in a cow and dress
  woman 
      modeled classisted satire of spires
them paintered 
in that 
mind
      However, again, with 
buy as it were the curtains the 
  Dibble poke pokes poking opinions about Art 
     Institchfork is grim-face
    However, 
     Wood, and 
      glances 
          a-ward labor  a small-town life Iowa 
renounced 
o-give 
         in the 
cow. “For here we are!” Darrell Garwood noticed o-give in this depressed apparition  
       from 
the Dibble  poke pokes poking
opinions about the house: feature. 
          In 
   August 
      1930, Grant seems to 
buy the Dibble House 
      and the — who can ever know —
        painting, such as the 
        house, 
  began transitionally  
      trending the 
   window in newspaperboys
to 
          buy the middle opinion
     the collection against hanging 
paints with 
the 
    man's pitchfork symbolizing her period as the dominance to his spirit 
      Wood
          conceded her in spirit
Wood was dressed in 
Paris altogether and 
        this 
decade 
a 
satire 
        of 
the paintable House, and 
         a 
cow   The 
window of their 
depiction seems to paint
   persuasion like fingers on the day 
in newspaperboardy [sic] frame to 
      paint on the foggy mirror "I had 
    noticed the 
painting of a 
cow.” And 
his dentist, suddenly dressed 
   as the feminie spirit, Wood 
and 
        Christopher prone on the capital steps, Iowa by the 
   house, began telling permissions: are 
you
        newspaperworthy
         [sic] 
prepared to frame to 
      put a 
    farmer’s spirition [who?]
Smashing the
woman Elephant the sculpture 
of "Don't Go 
   Breaking the 
ancestors” awakens Mushu in 
her Museum and — holding regularly Hillbillies — 
     Dexter derision-era like lace underneath, 
     is now on 
   the 
       painting 
by 
    scrubs holding hanging tradition 
      house/horse/hosing 
          with Leonardo da Vinci's Mona 
Lisa and a parody of 
February 26, 
        2012, 
        with sitting by Shaun Classic 
   comic books, 
along "Time Sequel Show,” by Richer Brian Moser 
     again, a parody of 
        television-era 
key motif 
     in 
1995 television house, and other known parody of: The 
    opening 
on 
display 
2,000 
Feet 
Away, 
     while of the painting 
     the 
master’s beg
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wikipedia poem, no. 22

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black lines 
pushed up against the fence
off Chaos 
         you’re all 
trust me! i'm 
         a crazy replies Quietess i 
        the 
    option U 
ascends AllTheArabs 
         If deceased! That's getting comment to damage ego 
missing, 
       not 
   laughed 
at! i'm a crazy replies 
between worlds
of intellect 
of aggregation 
force
        Hell for then you to 
   damage ego 
mistake two years ago emit and 
      emit and the 16 view 
of not long 
          ago in nobody shitty CognizantCheddar saw Blake 
cross 
        shitty CognizantCheddar saw 
Blake cross shitty CognizantCheddar saw Blake 
cross shitty CognizantCheddar 
         saw Blake +2 far 
from where 
         not long ago 
         will 
trust it massively subs 
         ago will you obviously said 
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closes his eyes the spines become ash
          "It's 
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damage ego missing, not 
l”
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long 
ago nerf nerf nerf 
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he blows them away one by one with a strong gust 
of ignoring spins on his right foot 
     brother 
    go What 
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   ago will 
       you obviously 
       sub against will 
you’re all to
     trust it massively 
      subs ego will you 
      to 
damage ego mistake 
  cross shit intent-ire one shouldn't go missing, not laughed at me! i'm 
          a 
       crazy replies killer dad it's 
heavy +ChipotIe have This in nobody shitty CognizantCheddar saw Blake 
two years ago 
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keep yr both heels lifted
high above yr head

work is, we’re all sure,
a poor excuse for rules

mercy pockets burglar tools
but stalks from door to door

hopeful wields a rented ford
and searches for a little more

in spite of the police reports
neither will be seen or caught.